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| starting_dose = 2.5 mg IR, 5 mg XR, or 12.5mg Mydayis | | starting_dose = 2.5 mg IR, 5 mg XR, or 12.5mg Mydayis | ||
| preparations = IR tabs 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, 15, 20, 30 mg; XR caps 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 mg; Mydayis caps 12.5, 25, 37.5, 50 mg | | preparations = IR tabs 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, 15, 20, 30 mg; XR caps 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 mg; Mydayis caps 12.5, 25, 37.5, 50 mg | ||
| fda_max = XR = 40 or 60 mg/d; IR = 40 or 60 mg/d<ref name="carlat/> | | fda_max = XR = 40 or 60 mg/d; IR = 40 or 60 mg/d<ref name="carlat">https://www.thecarlatreport.com/articles/4464-stimulant-dosing-limits</ref> | ||
| routes = Oral | | routes = Oral | ||
| onset = IR: 30–60 min; XR: 1–2 h to peak effect | | onset = IR: 30–60 min; XR: 1–2 h to peak effect | ||
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<indication ref="distractibility" author="MDElliottMD"> Impoved sustained attention by decreasing distractibility </indication>
+ Add a problemTitration strategies
Occasionally can go higher if no notable effects (good or bad) at 60 mg — proceed with caution.
If not long enough acting: add a tail dose of Adderall IR at [XR dose]/2.
If too long acting (e.g. disrupting sleep): switch to IR entirely (again at half the XR dose).Effects
- Attention and focus 100% +83.5 (n=2) ~80% +100.0 (n=1)Improved sustained attention, particularly on uninteresting things.Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Reduced impulsivity and hyperactivity 100% +33.0 (n=2) ~50% +67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Wakefulness 100% +83.5 (n=2) ~80% +100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Motivation and drive 100% +66.5 (n=2) ~66% +100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Mild euphoria 50% +100.0 (n=2) ~66% +100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Decreased appetite/Anorexia 100% +50.0 (n=2) ~50% +33.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Dry mouth 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~66% -33.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Elevated heart rate / blood pressure 50% +0.0 (n=2) ~50% -33.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Jaw clenching / bruxism 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~33% -33.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Insomnia 0% — (n=2) ~5% -67.0 (n=1)(with proper am dosing)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Irritability 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~20% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Anxiety 0% — (n=2) ~20% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Headache 0% — (n=2) ~5% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Weight loss 0% — (n=2) ~20% +67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Palpitations 0% — (n=2) ~20% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Stereotyped behaviors 50% -67.0 (n=2) ~5% -67.0 (n=1)Repetitive movements, e.g. skin picking, muscle twitches, ticsDid you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Serious cardiac event 0% — (n=2) ~0% -100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Agitation 0% — (n=2) ~5% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Psychosis 0% — (n=2) ~5% -100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Mania 0% — (n=2) ~5% -100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Dependence / misuse 0% — (n=2) ~5% -67.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Tolerance 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~5% -33.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Growth suppression 0% — (n=2) ~0% -67.0 (n=1)(well documented effect with chronic use in children)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Serotonin syndrome 0% — (n=2) ~0% -100.0 (n=1)Especially in combination with MAOIsDid you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Peripheral vasculopathy 0% — (n=2) ~5% -33.0 (n=1)Raynaud-like phenomenon, rare digital ischemia.Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Seizure/Epileptic fit 0% — (n=2) ~0% -100.0 (n=1)Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Hyperthermia 0% — (n=2) ~0% -67.0 (n=1)Risk in hot environments or with vigorous exercise.Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Withdrawal/Discontinuation Syndrome 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~50% -67.0 (n=1)Low motivation, low mood, hypersomnia, increased appetite on abrupt discontinuation.Did you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
- Urinary Retention 50% -33.0 (n=2) ~33% -33.0 (n=1)Difficult/slow urinationDid you experience this?How often have you seen this?How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)How was it? (-100 worst, +100 best)
Pharmacokinetics
Absorption
Excellent oral bioavailability — sources report ">75%" to "~90%". Food does not significantly affect total absorption but can delay peak concentration.Distribution
Volume of distribution ~4 L/kg; plasma protein binding less than 20%. Crosses the blood–brain barrier and placenta.Metabolism
Amphetamine is oxidized to 4-hydroxyamphetamine, α-hydroxyamphetamine, or norephedrine. Norephedrine and 4-hydroxyamphetamine are active metabolites and are further metabolized to 4-hydroxy-norephedrine. Deamination of α-hydroxyamphetamine yields phenylacetone, which is metabolized to benzoic acid and conjugated to its glucuronide and hippuric acid. CYP2D6 is crucial for amphetamine metabolism; genetic polymorphism causes significant inter-patient variability in clearance. Amphetamine itself inhibits monoamine oxidase (MAO), and both CYP1A2 and CYP3A4 contribute to its metabolism.[2]Elimination
Primarily renal — ~30–40% recovered as unchanged amphetamine, the rest as metabolites. Due to its pKa of 9.9, urinary elimination is highly pH-dependent: alkaline urine reduces ionization and decreases renal clearance, while acidic urine and high flow rates accelerate clearance via active tubular secretion. Half-life: D-enantiomer 9 h (children 6–12 y), 11 h (adolescents 13–17 y), 10 h (adults); L-enantiomer 11 h, 13–14 h, 13 h respectively.Pharmacodynamics
Amphetamine purportedly works via several converging mechanisms at monoaminergic terminals:
- Trace amine-associated receptor 1 (TAAR1) agonism — activates TAAR1 in monoaminergic neurons, triggering PKA/PKC signaling that phosphorylates the dopamine and norepinephrine transporters (DAT, NET), causing them to internalize and reverse direction.
- VMAT2 substrate — enters the presynaptic terminal, displaces dopamine and norepinephrine from vesicles into the cytoplasm.
- Reverse transport via DAT/NET — the elevated cytoplasmic monoamine pool is then ejected into the synaptic cleft via the now-reversed transporters. This is the primary mechanism of action — release, not reuptake inhibition.
- Weak reuptake inhibition at DAT and NET (secondary to release).
- MAO inhibition at higher concentrations, slowing presynaptic catabolism of monoamines.
- Serotonergic effects at high or supratherapeutic doses (relevant to overdose and serotonin syndrome risk).
Interactions
Minimal in practice. Caution with other psychostimulants, including caffeine. metabolized by 2D6, so relevant caution applies.
Pregnancy and lactation
Monitoring
- Baseline: cardiovascular history, weight/height, mental health history (especially for psychosis/bipolar/substance use risk), (optional) blood pressure, (optional) heart rate,
- At each visit: efficacy, side effects, general well-being
- Periodically reassess continued need; consider drug holidays to assess ongoing benefit
- Sleep quality (insomnia is dose-limiting)
Patient counseling
- Take first thing in the morning to minimize insomnia; avoid (late) afternoon dosing.
- Do not crush, chew, or split Adderall XR or Mydayis capsules — disrupts the controlled-release mechanism. (Capsules may be opened and sprinkled on applesauce if needed.)
- Take with or without food; high-acid beverages (orange juice, vitamin C) may reduce absorption.
- Stay well-hydrated, especially in heat or during exercise.
- Eat regular meals despite appetite suppression.
- Report any chest pain, palpitations, severe agitation, hallucinations, or signs of poor circulation in extremities.
- Sudden discontinuation can cause a fatigue/depression "crash" — plan for it.
- Take caution: make increase bowel motility and increase risk of expelled fecal content.
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See also
- Distractibility4.0n=1
- Excessive daytime sleepiness in shift-work disorder4.0n=1
- Impaired persistent attention4.0n=2
- Cognitive symptoms in chronic illness3.0n=1
- Impulsivity3.0n=1